Real Man says...
I don't understand why we are even discussing this. Women have no place in the workplace. Where they've been, they've caused strife and suffering. The worst bosses are women because they're too emotional and insecure. And for good reason! They don't have the physical or the mental capacity to function in a professional environment. The worst staff members are women too; they talk the most and always give you lip when you tell them to do something. Anything! What's all this rubbish about helping them achieve "work-life balance"? Women are meant to balance home and hearth and home budgets. Their duties, first and foremost, have always been about carrying babies on their backs, and standing next to a hot stove with a spatula or some other cooking implement in one hand, and a broom on the other. Those are things women should be balancing, as they stand barefooted, always in the house. Not the real challenges of the real hard working world of professionals. Men are made for that. For toiling through long periods for 'the Man'. (There's a reason that expression refers to a male character, think about it.) The least a good woman should do come evening time is make sure the children are taken care of, the dinner is made and served on time, the clothes are neatly pressed and folded, and that a man should be waited on, hand and foot, from the moment he enters the door after work (where she takes his shoes and socks off) through the moment he steps out of the shower into his pyjamas before going to bed. Is that too much to ask? So I say, we as men, must make our stand today. Sound the trumpets to rally round a common purpose: the re-subjugation of women. We must put women in their place. They have caused too many problems. We must discontinue education for women, because it empowers them to talk back. They must learn to speak only when spoken to and such. I urge you to desist. Stop all this nonsense about "women in IT" and other workplaces. Stop the insanity and bring some order into our world. Thank you for your time and consideration. (21 Aug 2008 6:02pm)
Real woman says...
In the first place if men can provide well for the family then the women don't need to join the workforce. If men wishes women to wait on them hand and foot like what 'real man' describes please migrate to Japan. There, women do wait hand and foot on their men. In return their men give their ENTIRE salary to their wives. In fact their companies will automatically deposit the money into the wives account. This also brings to the second point that, because Japanese men have no savings apart from the allowances their wives gives them for their meals (btw men are not allowed to return home until way past dinner or the family loses face as it could mean their bosses don't like them and that these men are not valued at work) the women are not afraid of being abandoned by their husbands. So since most of us are not Japanese, women will have to enter the workforce to ensure they can support themselves should the marriage falls apart plus in trying times like these, most men can't afford not to have their women work as their pay alone is not enough to support the whole family. In many developing countries, many so-called real men are those who drink, womaniser and stay unemployed while women are expected to take care of the entire family, clean the house and be the sole bread winner. Go tell the women not to work and expect the men to bring back the bread! I could go on but I would leave it to others to comment. (22 Aug 2008 7:19pm)
Real equality says...
I don’t understand why we are even discussing this. Men have no place in the workplace. Where they’ve been, they’ve caused strife and suffering. The worst bosses are men because they’re too aggressive and competitive. And for good reason! They don’t have the physical or the mental capacity to function in a professional environment. The worst staff members are men too; they have no emotional intelligence and resort to physical intimidation when asked to do something inconsistent with their proud self-perception. Anything! What’s all this rubbish about allowing them to dominate the most powerful organizations in our society? Men are meant to defend home and hearth, and log fallen trees. Their duties, first and foremost, have always been about carrying home a fat boar for the roast, and standing guard around the settlement with spears or some other deadly implement in one hand, perhaps a knife in the other. Those are things men should be balancing, as they stand barefooted, always on the alert. Not the real challenges of the real hard working world of professionals. Women are made for that; for building relationships, genuine teamwork, respect, collaboration, and negotiation. The least a good man should do come evening time is make sure there is a fresh meat for the family, that the furniture is sturdy, the roof doesn’t leak and that a woman should feel safe and understood, from the moment she enters the door after work (where he listens diligently to the trials of her day) through the moment she steps out of the shower into her pyjamas before going to bed. Is that too much to ask? So I say, we as women, must make our stand today. Sound the trumpets to rally round a common purpose: the subjugation of men. We must put men in their place. They have caused too many problems. We must discontinue education for men, because it empowers them to find more and more sophisticated ways of waging war and killing us all. They must learn to speak only when spoken to and such. I urge you to desist. Stop all this nonsense about “men in IT” and other workplaces. Stop the insanity and bring some order into our world. Thank you for your time and consideration. (24 Sep 2008 8:24pm)
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Zainab Al-Ghazali, an Egyptian feminist and nationalist who worked closely with Hassan al-Banna and the Muslim Brotherhood in their fight against British imperialism said that a woman must play a part in the development of a nation BUT her duties must not overshadow her duties as a wife and a mother because Allah created women to be the guardians of the households and the future generation. I have to agree with her even though she herself does not reflect what she believes in (loooong story - not for discussion here - hehe).
Men and women are different - we have different needs biologically, physically and mentally. With that reasoning, I think it's wrong to ask for "equality" in any sense of that word. Allah does not create men superior over women or vice versa - everyone is the same in His Eye. But Allah creates everyone with specific duties and responsibilities, which the other person may not be able to carry. A lot of men have no patience to be mothers, a lot of women don't have the strength to work 18 hours a day. I think we need to come to terms with our differences and start focusing on doing the best in fulfilling our responsibilities instead.
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